Caroline Alan on How Minerals Help You Age Better and Why You Should Throw Your Multivitamin Away
Minerals, commonly overlooked in the world of health and wellness, are more vital to our well-being than many of us realize.
In a recent podcast episode, Caroline Alan, CEO and co-founder of BEAM Minerals (use Discount Code 'Julian' at checkout for 20% off of all products including the foundational set I like.) joined me for a great conversation.
We delved into the profound impact these essential elements have on our health and how they can unlock our full potential. Below is a brief synopsis, along with the video recording and transcripts at the bottom of the page.
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Health and Minerals: Caroline Alan’s Personal Journey
Alan's journey to discover the importance of minerals was borne out of her own health struggles. Dealing with flat-lined adrenals, inflammation, and gingivitis, she realized that the food we consume today is severely depleted of essential minerals.
Her health journey led her to the creation of BEAM Minerals and to spread awareness about the importance of minerals and their role in optimal body function.
Caroline Alan
Initially in the corporate world of software development and business consulting, Caroline transitioned to become the Co-founder and CEO of BEAM Minerals. She’s here to explain how minerals provide your body systems with critical cellular support, how they get depleted, and how you can replenish them.
The Magic of Humic and Fulvic Substances
Caroline Alan explained the importance of humic and fulvic substances - elements formed from the decomposition of plants over millennia.
These substances, she said, are Mother Nature's way of replenishing minerals in cellular systems and detoxifying them.
The fulvic molecule, she described, is an intercellular transporter that carries nutrients into cells and wastes out, thereby increasing the bioavailability of supplements and vitamins.
The humic substance, on the other hand, acts as a natural detoxifier, chelating heavy metals, gathering free radicals, and adsorbing glyphosate.
Intracellular Transporters: Enhancing Health and Detoxification
The power of humic and fulvic substances goes beyond providing essential minerals. They act as intercellular transporters that increase energy generation in the body and help detoxify cells.
Even NASA used humic to protect astronauts from radiation, a testament to its powerful detoxification properties.
Innovative Tools for Measuring Health
Alan also discussed the innovative Oligoscan scan technology, a non-invasive way to measure heavy metals, beneficial minerals, and overall oxidative stress.
This tool provides a comprehensive overview of one's health, revealing the dangers of over-supplementing and demonstrating how simple tools can support the body, save money, and create the right balance.
The Importance of Balanced Nutrient Pairings
Balanced nutrient pairings are crucial for optimal health. Alan talked about how zinc, copper, and quercetin work together to support cellular function. She also emphasized the importance of maintaining balanced ratios of vitamins and minerals for the body to function optimally.
Conclusion
Caroline Alan's insights on the power of minerals and intracellular transporters highlight the often overlooked, yet vital aspects of health and wellness.
Her dedication to spreading awareness about these substances and their profound impact on our health is an eye-opener for everyone. Whether you're a health enthusiast or someone just beginning your wellness journey, understanding the role of minerals and intracellular transporters can be a game-changer for your health.
Remember, the secret to unlocking optimal health may just lie beneath our feet, in the form of minerals and the marvel of nature's intracellular transporters. So, it's time to unearth the secrets of minerals and discover how they unlock your full potential.
Lastly, I have been using a few BEAM minerals products over the last few months and have gotten a lot of benefits from them.
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Transcript
Caroline Alan
(0:00) When you're thinking about minerals, it's not about how much, it's about how bioavailable.
Julian Hayes II
(0:07) Okay, I like that.
Caroline Alan
(0:09) Okay.
Julian Hayes II
(0:10) That makes sense.
Caroline Alan
(0:12) So here's the cool thing about BEAM Minerals, and I'm not telling you this because I wanna sell BEAM Minerals, but it is a really cool thing. (0:23) So we talked about these three stages of bioavailability. (0:26) You start with digestion, breaking it down all the way down to its ionic components so it can be absorbed.
(0:34) Then you have absorption into the bloodstream, and then you have assimilation into the cell. (0:41) And all three stages have to be completed for those minerals that you put in your mouth to have any effect.
Julian Hayes II
(0:51) Welcome everyone to another episode of Executive Health & Life. (0:55) And as I always like to say, I'm here with another fascinating guest talking about something that's actually, it's truly fascinating, and something that's gonna blow your mind because it's all around us. (1:04) And you were probably like me, probably until maybe a month or two ago, you're pretty much oblivious to it, and it's invisible.
(1:10) But nevertheless, I wanna go into an origin story with my guest first. (1:15) So think about this, you're building a company, or you're leading a team, you're dealing with shareholders, you're rising up the ranks of corporate, or you're just trying to be the best person that you can be. (1:26) And it's easy to get off balance at times.
(1:28) It's easy to fall into a state where you're struggling physically, you're struggling mentally, you're struggling energetically, you're living on caffeine. (1:35) My guest is someone today who fell into this profile when she was working in the corporate world. (1:40) But like any great story, and we love stories, especially in America, we love a good comeback story.
(1:45) There's twists and turns, and sometimes you take a few steps back, but nevertheless, you will still end up at your destination. (1:51) So my guest today, Caroline Alan, as a result of rebuilding herself and her health, she dedicated and became devoted to educating people about the benefits of plant-based mineral supplementation. (2:03) But these are not just any minerals.
(2:06) These fulvic and humic minerals in their bioavailable ionic form, this is something that's going to be at the forefront very soon, and a huge focal point in this health space very, very, very soon. (2:17) So consider yourself ahead of the curve right now. (2:20) Nevertheless, she is now the co-founder and CEO of BEAM Minerals. (2:24) Without further ado, Caroline, thank you for joining me today. (2:27) How are you doing?
Caroline Alan
(2:28) I'm doing great. (2:30) It's really a pleasure to be here, and thank you for inviting me on.
Julian Hayes II
(2:34) Yes, very much so. (2:35) You know, I heard you on a different podcast. (2:38) You were talking about these, and I went, you know, anytime I hear something different that can even help me improve even 1%, I go listen.
(2:46) But then I really thought about this, and this is like the foundation. (2:51) There's many different biohacks that we can use, but if this mineral issue is not resolved, even optimized, a lot of that stuff is not going to be assimilated nearly as good as it could be. (3:03) So we'll get into that, but before anything, I want to go back to your origin story a little bit.
(3:09) And when you're in your corporate career, did you have this one moment that you recall where enough is enough? (3:15) It's like a breaking point, or was it just an accumulation over time of not just feeling well?
Caroline Alan
(3:21) You know, I always say it's sort of like one of those getting cooked like a frog stories. (3:27) You know, the heat just keeps getting turned up, and you go, oh, I can handle that, and then you turn it up a little more. (3:32) You go, oh, I can do that.
(3:33) But at some point, there is a, you know, a reckoning. (3:40) Either you just start getting ill regularly, you know, cold, you know, your immune system gets shot. (3:46) You know, I had flatlined adrenals for 2 1⁄2 years.
(3:50) So, you know, at that point, and I had sinus infections continually, and, you know, those really are hard to deal with when you have to think and be on your toes in a high-level corporate position, you know? (4:05) So at a certain point, I had to choose between my health and my career. (4:14) And, you know, I had to choose my health.
(4:18) And so I had to take a break.
Julian Hayes II
(4:21) That's a smart decision. (4:22) And a lot of times, we always come to, we always oftentimes come to that point, don't we, where it's usually the pursuit of success or whatever that looks to us, and then our health. (4:33) And oftentimes, those things are competing against each other.
Caroline Alan
(4:37) Well, and I always, you know, I always, one of the things I've done in my career is done a lot of leadership training and all sorts of things about change. (4:48) I ended up in my very end of my career doing change management projects. (4:53) And one of the things that we say in the world of change is people only change for two reasons.
(4:59) One, it gets so painful, you have to change. (5:03) Or two, you have something so compelling that you're willing to go through whatever it is to get to the other side. (5:11) And, you know, I did have both because I really needed, I was so in such discomfort and I was suffering, and I did have something compelling, which is I had kind of a true north of where I wanted to get to in terms of my own psyche and my energetics and my emotional state and physical state, all of those.
Julian Hayes II
(5:35) So as you're taking the steps to start up BEAM Minerals and you have this idea, and I'm sure you've talked to people at the very early stages of this, and what was kind of the reaction from that?
Caroline Alan
(5:49) Well, you know, it's interesting because, you know, I had my own experience with the minerals. (5:57) And one thing about me is because when I kind of, when I'm really inspired by something, I can be very enrolling. (6:07) And that's mainly because I'm willing to be vulnerable, tell people my own story, which is very connecting.
(6:15) And it's a true story, you know? (6:17) So the challenge though is that the conversation about minerals is very complex. (6:25) And I have spent years, literally years, eight or nine, eight years, learning to talk about minerals in a way that no matter who you are or where you're coming from, whether you're coming from a scientific background or you're coming from, you know, a health survivor background where you really don't know anything about the technical stuff behind it, you just want to feel better.
(6:49) I can kind of talk to anybody in that whole spectrum.
Julian Hayes II
(6:55) That's, you know, that's actually a great communication lesson. (6:57) I remember when I first got my, when I first started to write for publications way back when, I had to get a writing coach because the way I was writing was so technical. (7:09) And it was like I was speaking to other health people.
(7:12) But the people reading the publications was people who were not interested. (7:16) They really just cared about the results and maybe give a little information here or there. (7:20) So I think that's actually a very good reminder and communication lesson that we might geek out on the science, but most people and the people we want to serve are not going to geek out on that.
(7:30) So it's good to speak this in layman's terms.
Caroline Alan
(7:32) And also to speak it in a way that's relevant. (7:35) You know, the thing for me that I always say is that, you know, I'm not really interested in being the smartest person in the room. (7:41) What I'm really interested is that you, wherever you're coming from, can understand the value of what it is that I'm bringing.
(7:50) And because again, I'm so on fire and excited by what minerals can do for humanity that I really just try to see the other person and reflect them and then give them some little bit of information that's relevant.
Julian Hayes II
(8:07) So let's jump into that about minerals because minerals is probably if we're thinking from a, there's so many quote unquote more exciting things, right? (8:16) When we think about health and fitness. (8:19) But minerals are like the foundation.
(8:22) So, you know, to you, why are, when somebody comes to you, like, why should I care so much about minerals?
Caroline Alan
(8:27) Yeah. (8:28) Well, you know, it's interesting because I've spent so many, literally I've, the fun thing is that I really like to talk to people. (8:35) I really like people.
(8:37) And so we've had a lot of opportunity at different shows. (8:40) We just go and we talk to people and you can, you just try things and then you see which are the things that people lean in, where they lean in and which are the ones where they glaze over and walk away. (8:51) And here are the things that I think take the whole conversation about minerals and make it interesting.
(8:58) So I'm gonna say a few things and you see how it works for you. (9:03) So imagine your whole body, your entire body. (9:08) In fact, imagine everything that you're looking at in your room.
(9:11) Now take the water out of it. (9:14) It's all minerals. (9:18) Your entire body, if you took all the water out of your body, it would be a little pile of minerals.
Julian Hayes II
(9:24) That makes me pause.
Caroline Alan
(9:26) Yes. (9:27) So now think about your body and think about, I mean, literally it gives me chills. (9:31) Now think about your body and imagine that your entire body is made of cells.
(9:38) Every single like structural element, every liquid, everything is made of cells. (9:45) You have about 37 trillion cells in your body and actually they've gotten stronger microscopes now. (9:53) They say you have maybe 150 trillion cells in your body.
(9:58) Now imagine that every single cell inside those cells, there are these energy generating units called mitochondria and those mitochondria generate all energy in your body. (10:17) Every single piece of energy, like my hands moving, my eyes, my talking, you're looking at me, every piece of energy in your body, every unit of energy is generated by the mitochondria in your cells. (10:29) And there are two things that fuel the mitochondria, minerals and amino acids.
(10:38) That's it. (10:40) Now, your body makes a lot of amino acids, synthesizes those, biosynthesizes a lot of those. (10:48) Some you have to take in, but some many are actually made inside your body.
(10:53) But minerals, all the minerals that your body utilizes have to come in through the foods you eat or the supplementation you take. (11:04) And the fact is that the foods that we're eating because they've been produced in production farming environments, even in your backyard garden, when you grow a plant in soil, all of the structure of that plant is again minerals that are pulled from the soil. (11:24) So what happens is the soil itself becomes depleted of minerals and ultimately the food is less nutritious.
(11:32) It has less minerals in it. (11:34) So all the food that you get from the grocery store it has way less minerals than it did when I was a child. (11:43) So what's happened is the experts say that modern humans have only 30 to 40% of the minerals that we need to function optimally.
(11:56) So imagine a light in your house and now dim it down to 40%. (12:04) 40% we're all like dimmed. (12:07) We're dimmed to 40%.
(12:12) Think about that. (12:14) And imagine that the simplicity of actually just providing your body full spectrum bioavailable mineral content and then dimming that light up to even 70%. (12:27) And imagine how you could feel.
(12:30) And that's my life. (12:33) Going from literally operating at 40% struggling with flatlined adrenals, really bad inflammation in my gut, in my mouth, really deep pockets with gingivitis and receding gums and bone loss in my teeth and constant recurring sinus infections and getting sick all the time with anything that showed up. (13:00) And just by taking minerals, all of those things just resolving.
Julian Hayes II
(13:09) Wow. (13:10) Yeah. (13:11) That's huge.
(13:12) And so I'm thinking like during that process of when you are attempting to heal yourself and take care of these different ailments, you're doing different protocols. (13:24) You're probably trying different supplements, different compounds and interventions. (13:30) And it's not working or maybe not working as much as they probably think it should because I guess that whole foundational level is so depleted.
(13:39) Am I right there?
Caroline Alan
(13:40) Exactly. (13:41) And when you think about most supplementation that we take, most medications, they all come in through our, most of them come in through the mouth and they go into the gut. (13:52) So here, my gut was so unhealthy.
(13:57) And so even just the absorption of all those, I mean, I'm not, just so you know, I'm actually not really good at taking supplementation. (14:05) So I didn't actually take a lot of supplementation at the time. (14:10) So all I did was take was minerals.
(14:13) I did take vitamin D and I do hormone replacement, but that's it. (14:22) And so I just added these minerals. (14:25) That's all that I added.
(14:26) So, you know, when you really think about the body and not only, like if you look outside your window and you see plants, I mean, a plant in my, in the background in my image here, all plants are also cellular beings. (14:42) They're systems of cells as your body is. (14:45) And mother nature actually provided these natural tools for mineral replenishment and full system detoxification.
(14:55) And it's just that these things aren't in our food anymore. (14:58) So they're only in very, very small amounts. (15:03) And so we're just not getting them.
Julian Hayes II
(15:07) And so when we think about these, what exactly is a fulvic and humic?
Caroline Alan
(15:12) Yeah, so these, so let's talk about plant-based minerals. (15:16) So, because I know people, a lot of people think about minerals. (15:18) They're like, oh, well, I take, you know, magnesium and I take my electrolyte.
(15:23) Most people don't even think of electrolytes as minerals. (15:25) They're minerals also, magnesium, potassium, calcium, you know, salts. (15:29) These are all minerals, okay?
(15:33) And what we've done is we've looked, someone told us once that there were these minimum daily requirements of potassium or magnesium or whatever. (15:45) And so we might be taking what I call large amounts of these minerals and throwing them in our system, but we don't notice any difference. (15:53) In fact, most of us have a cupboard filled with mostly mineral, old pill bottles of stuff.
(15:59) We're like, yeah, that, whatever. (16:01) I'm not taking that anymore. (16:02) I didn't notice any difference, you know?
(16:04) Or they're taking lots of magnesium and potassium and stuff as replacement because they're athletes and they're still have cramping. (16:12) So the whole, what I'm on a mission to do is completely change, disrupt the whole concept of minerals, how they work in the, like help people understand how they work in the body and then help them understand actually how to replenish them in a successful way so that they can actually do their job. (16:33) So I think actually what we should do is talk about that first.
(16:37) And then we can talk about Humic and Fulvic and get a feeling for why these might be better than just taking pills or drinks or powders.
Julian Hayes II
(16:47) Okay, let's do that.
Caroline Alan
(16:48) Okay, so I think it's most people have no concept of minerals and how they work in the body. (16:56) So first we just learned that minerals are the foundation for all the energy generation in your body. (17:04) And most of us only have like 40%, okay?
(17:07) But let's think about minerals and how they actually get into the body since they all have to come in, how do they come in? (17:14) And this is the cool thing that I learned. (17:16) It was huge, like it blew my mind when I learned this.
(17:19) I was like, people need to know about this. (17:22) So the thing about minerals is they have to not only get into your gut, they have to get into your bloodstream and then they have to get inside the cells so that they can be utilized both by those mitochondria that are inside your cells. (17:39) And most minerals that we take in pill, powder, flavored drink form, what are they made of?
(17:47) Rocks, shells and bone. (17:53) How well does your digestive tract digest those things? (17:59) Like not very well, even though they're ground up because what people think, oh, I understand about digestion but do you know that things in your digestive tract have to be broken down all the way down to their ionic chemical components to be absorbed into your bloodstream?
(18:19) That's extremely small. (18:22) Most things, when you take a pill of magnesium, you may be, if you're lucky, digest 10 to 12% of it, 10 to 12%. (18:32) Then it all depends on the health of your lining of your digestive tract.
(18:39) And mine was not very healthy, right? (18:42) So my digestive system didn't work very well. (18:47) Now you put bones and rocks and shells in there, those aren't gonna digest very well and then they don't absorb very well either into the bloodstream.
(18:57) But let's say you absorb maybe 10% into your bloodstream. (19:01) Now you have to get it into your cells. (19:04) And the truth is that most of us don't have very effective or efficient assimilation, it's called assimilation engines, bringing the minerals into the cells.
(19:17) So this is the problem, is that even if you're taking lots of minerals, they're not getting digested, they're not getting absorbed and they're not getting assimilated into your cells where they can actually make a difference. (19:36) So this, like when I realized that, I was like, wow. (19:40) So I'm really mineral deficient, but how do most people get minerals from these methods that don't work, okay?
(19:52) And so you take 320 milligrams, which is actually a huge amount of magnesium, and you only end up actually assimilating maybe 5% of it if you're pretty healthy, okay? (20:07) So the plant-based minerals, they're just like a completely different, completely different thing. (20:13) They're actually mother nature's solution.
(20:19) Yeah, there's so much there. (20:21) You see how complex it gets pretty quick.
Julian Hayes II
(20:23) Yeah, and you know the thing is for me, like initially, I used to cramp a lot. (20:28) And I, especially when I played basketball, I cramped a lot midsection-wise. (20:34) And then when I started to do more endurance activities, cramp a lot.
(20:39) And so I had to really jack up my magnesium intake in terms of sprays and a whole host of other things to work. (20:48) And I guess it kind of makes sense now that if you think about it, if you're jacking your tolerance up to maybe 800 to 1,000 or maybe even a little more on certain days, maybe I'm getting a fraction of that. (21:03) And that's finally helping alleviate.
(21:04) But think about how much it's taking to do that.
Caroline Alan
(21:08) Exactly, exactly. (21:10) And so, you know, we actually have a thing. (21:13) We have a cramp relief kit.
(21:15) We basically say if you utilize this, your cramping will go away. (21:19) You won't need to be like using so much magnesium. (21:22) The thing that you should know actually as an endurance athlete, because I work with people who train endurance athletes.
(21:29) And one of the things that they find with aging endurance athletes is they start ending up with osteoporosis. (21:37) Why is that? (21:38) Because they've taken so much magnesium, they've created such an imbalance in their system with so much magnesium that it actually begins to pull the calcium out of their bones over time.
(21:49) So using huge amounts of magnesium over a long period of time is not healthy. (21:55) It's not good for your body. (21:58) So the reason that you have to take so much is because of this, we call it bioavailability, right?
(22:04) You're having to utilize so much because your system is utilizing a lot of magnesium. (22:09) Although one thing that you might not be aware of is that cramping can also be from a phosphorus depletion. (22:19) It also can be from the imbalance between calcium and magnesium.
(22:24) Now for you, the magnesium is working. (22:26) I talk to people all the time. (22:28) They take magnesium regularly, even large amounts, and they still have cramping.
(22:33) Because it might not be that they need more magnesium. (22:36) It might be about the balance between the magnesium and calcium, or it might be phosphorus or some other micronutrients. (22:45) So cramping is a really, one of the things that people, I really like to say to people is all cramping in the body, all cramping, whether it's leg cramps, whether it's heart attack, whether it's menstrual cramps, whether it's this crick in my neck that I have.
(23:07) That's actually from my neck injury, but it's mineral deficiency. (23:15) It's mineral deficiency. (23:16) So if you can effectively replenish minerals, you can either radically reduce or completely eradicate cramping in your body.
Julian Hayes II
(23:30) Yeah, and this also kind of thinks about trace minerals. (23:36) I think those are, I don't wanna say impossible to get, but pretty hard to get.
Caroline Alan
(23:42) Well, so that's what fulvic and humic are. (23:44) That's what plant-based minerals are. (23:46) They're trace minerals.
(23:48) So now let's go back to that thing about realizing that your whole body's made of cells, right? (23:55) Now imagine, and you know, like you need, they call them macrominerals. (24:00) The macrominerals are the calcium, magnesium, the ones that you need a lot of.
(24:06) The cool thing is that plant-based minerals are actually pre-formulated so that there's a lot of magnesium and calcium. (24:16) The macrominerals, because they are actually formulated exactly the way your body is formulated in terms of the amount of minerals in your body, amount of minerals that you need and utilize. (24:29) So rather than thinking, I mean, as biohackers, we tend to think we can biohack.
(24:35) Well, you know, we're gonna add a little of this, add a little of that, but your body and the replenishment system for minerals, it's not like a car. (24:44) You can't say, oh, I need more magnesium, throw in a whole bunch of magnesium, I need a whole bunch of potassium. (24:50) It doesn't actually work like that at all, at all.
(24:55) So if you can use instead these natural substances (25:00) that are already pre-formulated (25:02) in the quantities that your body needs (25:05) and in extremely bioavailable format, (25:09) you can really, you can really not just hack your system, (25:15) but you can provide your body all the foundation, (25:18) this foundation level support that it needs (25:23) to do all the other functions, grow hair, (25:27) you know, make your skin healthy, (25:29) make your brain fog clear, remove the cramping, (25:35) remove the inflammation in your gut, (25:39) you know, start to gain and maintain homeostasis.
Julian Hayes II
(25:43) And you think about how many times you hear people talk about, I have to work on my skin health, or especially as they're, you know, taking more trips around the sun, getting more chronologically older, they're always worried about skin health. (25:56) And so the first thing that people are gonna grab is probably, the average person's probably gonna look at collagen peptides or something. (26:03) And also, yeah, and still not knowing, like you said, though, these are all cells and the raw materials are still not there.
Caroline Alan
(26:13) Well, I mean, so peptides are actually, they are chains of amino acids. (26:18) So that's one half of the thing. (26:20) And then the minerals are the other half.
(26:22) So these two, these two are the best thing you can do for your skin health. (26:28) And clearly, skin health is a really good sign of the health of a body inside.
Julian Hayes II
(26:36) So as we're talking about the soil, and there's a big thing, most people have heard of it right now, and that's glyphosates.
Caroline Alan
(26:43) Yes.
Julian Hayes II
(26:44) And some of the things that they can do is, you know, gut issues, chelates, some of the minerals that we have, which can, I assume, then further deplete us, messing with different types of enzymes, messing, depleting, tanking our mitochondria. (26:59) I don't know about how much, but I know it's a pretty decent amount. (27:02) I don't know if there's any studies on that particular, but then also affecting the blood-brain barriers.
(27:08) Those are a couple of things, right, to kind of set this up.
Caroline Alan
(27:11) And also the gland, which is all about serotonin and melatonin, so sleep and mood.
Julian Hayes II
(27:20) So I'm curious how, here, here, these plant supplementations here, how do they, can they offset glyphosate zone?
Caroline Alan
(27:29) Yeah. (27:30) Well, so actually, now let's get into humic and fulvic. (27:34) So I like to help people understand where they come from, like, what are they?
(27:38) So imagine an entire rainforest back when the dinosaurs lived, and imagine that whole entire rainforest slowly decomposing over millennia into this incredibly mineral-rich, crystalline substance. (27:57) We also have a substance in the Himalayas called shilajit. (28:02) Some people say shilajit, but I've heard it's supposed to be said shilajit.
(28:07) I can't say it quite right.
Julian Hayes II
(28:08) Really? (28:09) I've been messing that up myself then. (28:10) I think I said shilajit or something.
(28:13) I even took it, right?
Caroline Alan
(28:14) Anyway, everybody, maybe we'll get, someday we'll get the right pronunciation, but it's a more of a pasty substance. (28:24) It is the same thing, humic and fulvic. (28:29) And so in our case, with our products, it's this crystalline substance.
(28:35) And the beautiful, there's some beautiful things about it. (28:37) One is it carries all the minerals that your body needs in that balanced formulation. (28:45) It's also never had contact with modern pollutants.
(28:49) It's not manufactured. (28:51) It's completely created by, in a natural process of the decomposition of plants. (29:02) And in that process of these plants decomposing, these two substances are created, humic and fulvic, and they have amazing properties.
(29:13) I say that they are mother nature's technology for mineral replenishment in all cellular systems on earth and full system detoxification for all cellular systems as well. (29:30) So here's how they work. (29:32) And the reason I'm gonna give you the overview first is we'll talk about how they work specific to glyphosate.
Julian Hayes II
(29:39) Okay.
Caroline Alan
(29:39) Next. (29:40) So I like to talk about the fulvic first. (29:43) The fulvic is in, the humic molecule actually includes fulvic.
(29:48) We extract fulvic from the humic for several reasons we could get into or not. (29:54) But the fulvic molecule is very, very small. (29:57) It's much smaller than a cell.
(30:00) And it's what is called a flavonoid. (30:02) We've all heard of that term, but what really is a flavonoid? (30:05) Flavonoid is an intercellular transporter.
(30:09) And the fulvic molecule is a specific type of fulvic molecule, I mean, fulvic, excuse me, of flavonoid that is different than any other one on earth. (30:25) So what it does, it has two cool things. (30:28) Imagine a person outside your room and they fill up, they have a backpack on their back and they fill it full of goodies and they walk into your room and they dump it out and you get all the goodies.
(30:39) And then they pack into it all the waste in your trash can or whatever and they carry that out of your room. (30:45) That's what the fulvic does. (30:46) It carries 60 times its weight of nutrients into the cell.
(30:51) And then it does what no other molecule on earth does that they know of, it changes its polarity. (30:58) And what it does though, all those things fall off inside the cell available to the mitochondria for energy generation. (31:06) Then it gathers all the bio-waste, the toxin, the environmental toxins, free radicals, and it carries those heavy metals and it carries those out of the cell.
(31:21) And then it does what no other, again, it does the same thing again, changes its polarity and those things drop off in the bloodstream. (31:31) So it's this incredibly powerful intercellular transporter. (31:37) And because there's something about the fulvic molecule, most molecules when they go across the cell wall barrier, they require a certain receptor and the fulvic requires nothing.
(31:49) Any channel that opens in your cell wall, the fulvic goes straight through. (31:55) So this truly is a technology that's designed, your body is evolved as a being from the earth to utilize these. (32:05) Isn't that cool?
Julian Hayes II
(32:07) It's mind blowing.
Caroline Alan
(32:09) Yeah, it's mind blowing. (32:11) Exactly, see this is what I said, minerals are so exciting. (32:15) So it's mind blowing.
(32:17) Imagine that there's a technology that's been designed and your body has evolved to utilize it. (32:23) And all you have to do is put it in your body and now the energy generation ability of your body increases substantially, substantially. (32:36) And your mitochondrial function increases because now you've got so much more nutrition, everything you put in your mouth, whether it's water or food, vitamins, all your other, if you're a biohacker and you have a big stack of supplements, all that stuff becomes more bioavailable.
(32:54) And you're constantly doing intercellular detoxification. (32:58) Most people who deal with the world of detox know it's one thing to get things out of the bloodstream. (33:04) It's another thing to get things out of what's stored in your tissues, which is inside the cells.
(33:12) This helps the intercellular detoxification.
Julian Hayes II
(33:17) You know, just before you go to the next one, I love the point where you talked about the bioavailability because a lot of times you take all these supplements, I'm a pill popper myself, and there's in the back of your head, you're like, is this actually doing what it's supposed to be doing? (33:32) Some of these you can measure now, right? (33:33) But a lot of these you maybe cannot exactly measure, right?
(33:37) So you're going off oftentimes by feel, but it's also, you know, this is like the best insurance policy that you can have in that this almost, this is like you said, it's, can you say guarantee pretty much, you know, almost that, yeah.
Caroline Alan
(33:53) It's like, this is like fundamental, the way organisms work on earth.
Julian Hayes II
(34:00) Yeah, and so like anything, I love the idea and I love that notion now that anything you take, it's gonna do what it's supposed to do now because you have the right raw materials there now.
Caroline Alan
(34:13) I mean, to the point where actually even if I drink alcohol, I actually went to visit my family recently and everyone was having drinks and I was like, oh, I'll have a drink. (34:23) I hardly drink alcohol ever. (34:25) I was like, I'll have a drink, you know, a gin and tonic.
(34:27) You know, I drink this much of that gin and tonic, like one inch and I was, I mean, and I didn't, I don't, alcohol doesn't do well with me, but I was immediately high. (34:38) And that's because I have so much fulvic in my system that everything I put in my system is very quickly bioavailable.
Julian Hayes II
(34:48) I'm gonna have to watch out for that. (34:51) I'm already a lightweight. (34:52) I haven't, I'm much like you.
(34:54) Alcohol doesn't really do it for me really anymore, but usually for me in the past, it was two to three and that's, you know, if I do more than two to three, then it's, I'm gone. (35:04) So maybe one, that's good.
Caroline Alan
(35:07) It'll be really interesting for you to have that experience.
Julian Hayes II
(35:10) Yeah, I haven't had a drink of alcohol probably in over a year or so, but so I am gonna keep that in mind next time I have wine and I'm very curious to see that. (35:21) Now I will admit that now that you're talking about this assimilation and everything is that I eat a lot of food and I haven't had any like bloating or anything, even though I eat a substantial amount of food. (35:31) So now that, so I have some of the minerals in my drink right now that I'm drinking, but, and I've been using it for maybe a couple of weeks now.
(35:39) And I just kind of randomly thought about that, that like I haven't had any like type of bloating or discomfort with my food or not. (35:46) And I, yeah, so that's the interesting thing. (35:49) Now that we're talking and everything in my mind is actually thinking about something.
Caroline Alan
(35:52) Well, and now, and that's where we get into the remediation of the glyphosate because glyphosate is so, let's talk about the humic first and then we can go into glyphosate. (36:07) It's important to have the foundation of these two components of fulvic. (36:12) So the fulvic being the intercellular transporter.
(36:15) So it increases energy generation in the body because it gets more nutrients into your cells and also detoxes from inside the cells. (36:26) So now you have this, the guy with the backpack filled with your trash that he dumped out, outside of the cell into your bloodstream, right? (36:35) And now you want to get that out of your body.
(36:40) And guess what? (36:41) Mother nature provided the perfect tool, this molecule called humic. (36:47) And humic is a large molecule, much larger than a cell.
(36:51) It hangs out in your bloodstream. (36:54) And because of the way it works with humic, it stays in solution quite well. (36:59) It doesn't just fall out of solution and leave the body until it reaches a certain point.
(37:05) So it stays in solution, has incredible amount of surface area on the outside. (37:10) And it's extremely sticky because it's one of the strongest electrolyte molecules known to man. (37:16) And it chelates.
(37:17) It's incredibly effective at chelating heavy metals. (37:22) It gathers free radicals. (37:26) So I've seen charts that show it's thousands of times more effective as an antioxidant than any superfood mix or anything you could use.
(37:37) Incredibly effective. (37:38) That's the other reason it's helping your gut is removing all the free radicals. (37:43) So not all of course, but more.
(37:46) It also just removes bio-waste. (37:51) It just constantly sits in your system. (37:54) It gathers all the detritus from autophagy processes and all of that kind of thing.
(38:01) And then it also does something really cool. (38:06) It adsorbs glyphosate. (38:09) So, and what that means is it actually, the glyphosate molecule clings to it and then it builds a film around the glyphosate molecule.
(38:18) And once it's got that film around it, it immediately starts breaking down the molecule so that the molecule can no longer have its negative effects while it's in your system. (38:29) So, because as soon as that molecule is changed, it no longer can have its effects on the pineal gland, on the CP450 enzymes, which are associated with gluten intolerance and all sorts of gut dysbiosis, et cetera. (38:45) So ultimately that molecule gets so heavy at a molecular weight that it falls out of solution and it leaves your body through all the elimination channels.
(38:58) And that's the other thing is that most detoxification processes require certain elimination channels to be open. (39:05) And the beautiful thing about the humic is it's designed to use every single elimination channel in your body. (39:12) That means rubbing your hands together, sweating, your tears, your hair, your urine and feces, of course, and you're constantly, just every time I'm doing this, I'm like literally detoxifying.
Julian Hayes II
(39:28) Huh, I didn't even think about that. (39:31) Like when you think about elimination and detoxification, I don't really think about rubbing hands or anything like that, or you think about sweating, feces, and urine and all that, of course, but like, you know, hair and.
Caroline Alan
(39:43) Yeah. (39:44) Yeah, interesting, right. (39:46) Yeah, so you're constantly, constantly detoxifying.
(39:49) So to have this incredible tool that is a gentle, so you don't have to have any big detoxification events. (39:57) You can just be constant. (39:58) I call it mother nature's janitor.
(40:00) It's literally constantly working. (40:03) In fact, there's a great story. (40:05) There was a man who was charged by NASA to keep astronauts in space because astronauts get a lot of radiation, which is ultimately heavy metals.
(40:19) And they're worried about them living in space for a long time because they could be prone to cancer. (40:26) And you know what he found was humic, was keep them infused with humic. (40:32) Isn't that cool?
(40:34) Actually, it was a mix of copper and humic, but yeah, I have a whole report about it if you're interested. (40:39) It's called the Frost Report. (40:41) It's really interesting.
Julian Hayes II
(40:41) Yeah, I would love to read it.
Caroline Alan
(40:43) He ended up creating a product that's no longer available that actually removed tumors, cancer tumors, literally from the body by putting a salve on the outside. (40:54) It's a crazy, crazy story, but actually amazing. (40:58) But so this is the thing that, humic is actually well known as a remover of heavy metals from toxic waste dumps, from wetlands, from Chernobyl.
(41:15) Yeah. (41:16) Yeah.
Julian Hayes II
(41:18) Wow. (41:19) That is insane. (41:22) And once again, mind blowing that the, you know, the free radical thing is a very, and I imagine that's about reducing oxidative species as well, right?
Caroline Alan
(41:33) Yes.
Julian Hayes II
(41:33) In there as well. (41:34) So, you know, for people who like to exercise a lot, such as myself, and this is very good for that, right? (41:39) Because you're creating a lot of damage.
Caroline Alan
(41:43) And this is- You get a lot of oxidative stress and you're pulling muscles apart and rebuilding them constantly.
Julian Hayes II
(41:49) The only limiting factor is really your recovery. (41:50) So you can go do it again. (41:52) And so, I mean, I guess that's probably another thing.
(41:56) Now that I think about it, if I'm really, now my brain's firing a little bit, thinking about this and we're talking about it, I don't really get sore or feel anything, you know? (42:05) So I think that's the best thing, right? (42:07) I think that, you know, as we talked about before we even hit record, a lot of times you know you're really doing something right when you just don't feel it.
(42:15) And you just happen to notice yourself doing more than usual, feeling great. (42:19) And a lot of old things that you thought about or may come up sometimes are non-existent.
Caroline Alan
(42:25) I talk, you know, I do talk a lot with athletes because athletes are really a great example because what do they deal with? (42:32) They deal with hydration, never feeling really hydrated. (42:36) And they also deal with replenishment, never feeling, like particularly endurance athletes, you know, having, struggling to feel replenished, especially when they're in their training cycles.
(42:48) And also dealing with a lot of muscle soreness and all of that, potentially cramping, et cetera. (42:53) So, and it's really exciting. (42:56) Recently I was working, I've been working with a cyclist who had really bad, it's called fasciculation.
(43:03) It's like, they call it the creepy crawlies. (43:06) And he's a cyclist, a lot of cyclists get this. (43:09) And it's like feeling like you have worms under your skin.
(43:11) Your muscles are actually involuntarily moving. (43:15) Micromovements, it's, yeah, it's really weird. (43:18) And then also night cramping.
(43:20) So we had gotten him on our minerals and he'd been taking them for probably six months, no cramping, no fasciculations. (43:28) Then he was training for a big event and he's like, oh, I need to take some, I should take some extra magnesium. (43:37) He took some magnesium citrate, or no, glycinate, I think first.
(43:41) And immediately he got horrible leg cramps that night. (43:48) Then he's like, well, maybe it was the glycinate. (43:50) Maybe I should take this magnesium citrate.
(43:53) And he took that. (43:55) He got even worse cramps and he had fasciculations, this creepy crawly thing for like three hours. (44:01) He sent us a video of it.
(44:03) So why is that? (44:04) So first of all, and this is really, this is, I am totally on a mission to get people to stop taking single mineral supplements like magnesium, like that magnesium you're taking. (44:19) You should, once you get fully established with the minerals, go get a test.
(44:25) If you're really depleted in magnesium, okay, well then maybe you do need to bring that depletion up to some form of level. (44:34) It would level out over time, over months by just taking the plant-based minerals. (44:41) But if you really do have a deep depletion, you're experiencing some really big symptom from it, you might want to take something to bring that up.
(44:49) And I have some ideas about what you could use for that, but you should test for that, okay? (44:54) So what happened to this guy is his body was in great homeostasis, great balance. (45:01) And then he added all this magnesium and completely threw his gut into imbalance.
(45:09) And not only that, he used magnesium citrate, which one thing that magnesium citrate does is it absorbs the liquid, the water out of your gut. (45:20) So it put him into deep dehydration, which caused the really bad cramping. (45:30) So the idea with minerals is some scientists along the way set up these minimum daily requirements, but these are ludicrous.
(45:39) These are absolutely ludicrous.
Julian Hayes II
(45:42) That was gonna be one of my questions, actually, is I noticed that a lot of times I think we're probably, I'm probably like this too. (45:48) You're trained to, when you look at anything you're taking, you're looking at the amount, the amount that you're taking everything.
Caroline Alan
(45:54) Yes, exactly.
Julian Hayes II
(45:55) And one thing I noticed with these is there's no amount on there.
Caroline Alan
(45:58) I know. (45:59) So we get questions every single day and people are like, well, send me the ingredients because I wanna know how much magnesium and calcium, potassium, because somebody told me I need to get this many every day. (46:11) We are constantly in a reframe of that conversation.
(46:15) We have a whole email that we send them to help them understand when you're thinking about minerals, it's not about how much, it's about how bioavailable.
Julian Hayes II
(46:25) Hmm, okay, I like that.
Caroline Alan
(46:28) Okay.
Julian Hayes II
(46:28) That makes sense.
Caroline Alan
(46:31) So here's the cool thing about BEAM Minerals and I'm not selling, I'm not trying to tell, I'm not telling you this because I wanna sell BEAM Minerals, it is a really cool thing. (46:41) So we talked about these three stages of bioavailability. (46:45) You start with digestion, breaking it down, all the way down to its ionic components so it can be absorbed.
(46:52) Then you have absorption into the bloodstream and then you have assimilation into the cell. (46:59) And all three stages have to be completed for those minerals that you put in your mouth to have any effect. (47:07) There's a few that actually do have an effect in the bloodstream, like iron as an example, but most have to get into your cells, okay?
(47:17) So the beautiful thing about BEAM Minerals is when you drink our liquid minerals, they require zero digestion. (47:26) They're 100% ready for absorption. (47:30) So when you drink it, by the time it hits your stomach, your body's already absorbed some portion of it and is already assimilating and utilizing some of the mineral content.
(47:42) So when you take the electrolyzed, for example, it's the fulvic supplement, by the time it hits your stomach, your body's already replenished, started replenishing the electrolytes in your body. (47:56) So I say, wouldn't it be better when you go, if you're, rather than taking some powdered electrolyte drink that most, many people are using these powdered electrolyte drinks, they put it in their water and it looks like it dissolves, but I'm telling you, your body still has to digest that. (48:15) First of all, it has a flavor.
(48:16) Anything with a flavor has to be digested. (48:20) Anything with a flavor. (48:23) And that takes about 20 minutes.
(48:26) So, and in that 20 minutes, most of it just gets washed through and you pee it out. (48:34) Only 10 to 12% gets maybe digested, okay? (48:39) So, but think about the 100% of the electrolyzed is 100% available, ready for absorption.
(48:48) Isn't that cool? (48:49) It's amazing to me.
Julian Hayes II
(48:51) That's much more efficient.
Caroline Alan
(48:54) Yeah, and then once it gets absorbed, it also has that trans, so the fulvic is the transportation tool for those minerals into the cells. (49:03) So what we find with people is, we were working recently a big bike race and we were at the aid station and we actually have another product I'm gonna tell you about that's really cool, but we would give the electrolyte shots to people and they'd be like standing there, getting their energy bar or whatever, that's gonna take like 35 minutes to even begin to feel any energy from it. (49:31) And they'd drink it and they'd be like, is it possible I could feel that already?
(49:35) And we're like, yep, yep.
Julian Hayes II
(49:37) The energy bars never again, no. (49:40) The energy bars and the chews, no. (49:42) I did that once, never again.
Caroline Alan
(49:45) Moves your gut, makes you feel like crap, don't they?
Julian Hayes II
(49:48) Oh my God, it tore my gut apart.
Caroline Alan
(49:50) Exactly, that's exactly, that's exactly right. (49:54) So we also have an amazing product, it's called Insta-Lytes™ and it's actually the fulvic minerals in a spray format. (50:02) So for athletes, it's incredibly useful.
(50:05) It has many, many different uses, but you, so imagine taking minerals and being able to spray them exactly where you need them. (50:14) So if you have a cramp in your leg, you spray the fulvic and it absorbs directly through the skin into the muscle in three seconds.
Julian Hayes II
(50:25) So it's, so this is, so someone's using this, it's very targeted. (50:29) So in the calf, spray the calf, right?
Caroline Alan
(50:32) Exactly, in the neck, spray the neck. (50:33) If you go work out, we have people who go, I give it to people, say, go to the gym, spray one side of your body and not the other, and then watch how many more reps you can get on the side that you sprayed. (50:46) And then also, yeah, and then spray it and then you'll feel, like do a really hard workout, spray one side and not the other, spray before.
(50:55) You can even spray during if you want. (50:57) We've had people do that and spray after and then feel the difference in the soreness of the DOMS, the delayed onset muscle soreness, yeah.
Julian Hayes II
(51:06) Okay, I'm gonna do that. (51:07) Okay. (51:08) I have some of the sprays here.
Caroline Alan
(51:11) Yeah, it's fun.
Julian Hayes II
(51:12) So it's very interesting. (51:15) You know, we talked about testing, you mentioned testing earlier, and do you have a preference? (51:21) Because I know there's different, there's micronutrient testings out there, and then I'm not as familiar, I just came across, you know, through researching you a little bit, you mentioned Oligoscan.
Caroline Alan
(51:31) Yeah. (51:32) Yeah, let me tell you a little about testing. (51:34) So a lot of people swear by hair analysis, and I've done a huge amount of study about testing for lots of reasons.
(51:44) One, because I wanted to vet this one tool that we use called Oligoscan. (51:50) But the thing about any kind of excretion model testing, which is hair analysis, is your body excreting hair and your nails and your urine and feces. (52:03) These are also, if you're doing any kind of mineral testing, using those.
(52:09) The problem with it is that your body stores heavy metals. (52:15) And if you're wanting to find out what your heavy metal levels are, if your body doesn't excrete well, and there are lots of, and sometimes they'll give you actually substances to make you excrete, which also can show something that's not really true. (52:32) So what we say is, the Oligoscan is a technology, it's very stable.
(52:39) It's an old technology, it's been around a long time, and it's the same technology they use in all material sciences to determine what is a metal made of, or what is like, any material that you have around you, you could, you know, this glass, we could use, we could find out what is this glass exactly made of. (53:00) And it uses a very, very bright light, and it's a non-invasive test. (53:06) It shines a light into four spots on your palm, and it returns very accurate, and we've tested this, very accurate data on all of your heavy metal levels, all of your beneficial minerals, your micronutrients, all of your electrolyte levels, all of your vitamin level, not all, but many vitamin levels, as well as overall oxidative stress, which is related to the free radicals in your system.
(53:39) It does some other things as well, but it's, so imagine not only being able to tell what's ambient in your system, like what you ate a few days ago, or yesterday, or today, but actually what's your system, what's been brought into the cells, so what's available for your mitochondria, okay? (54:04) And also stored in terms of environmental toxins or heavy metals. (54:10) So, and it gives you that reading, like, really immediately.
Julian Hayes II
(54:15) I like that. (54:17) I like that a lot. (54:19) Because I don't, normally, I have access to a lot of different tests to recommend and advise and tell people, but I've never really been a hair tissue thing.
(54:31) I've never really recommended that too much. (54:34) And I assume not, like the heavy metals test as well, and as well, so I've always been- There's a lot of people who swear by it. (54:42) Yeah.
Caroline Alan
(54:43) By the way, we're gonna be at the biohacking conference next week in Orlando, Florida, and we are offering that test at our booth, just in case there might be anybody. (54:53) I don't know if you're gonna drop this out before then, but we can also provide a link on your page for this so people could find out if there's a practitioner near them.
Julian Hayes II
(55:05) Okay, yeah, I'll probably just get the link. (55:07) This won't be out before then, but we'll get a link to have that, because I think that'll be very beneficial in terms of, because if I know anything, if you talk to the average person and their supplementation, they're gonna be taking, if anything, some type of vitamin, some type of mineral. (55:25) Maybe not the NMN and all that kind of stuff, but they'll take some kind of minerals, some zinc.
Caroline Alan
(55:31) Zinc.
Julian Hayes II
(55:31) Yeah, zinc. (55:33) I mean, I've even looked into that kind of stuff and used it at times as well.
Caroline Alan
(55:37) And one of the things, like as an example, when we've done a lot of oligoscans at different shows, and since the pandemic, a lot of people ended up with high zinc, like toxic levels of zinc, because people were taking a lot of zinc during the pandemic because people said, you know, taking zinc is good for your immune system, et cetera. (55:58) And by the way, zinc also doesn't do anything for you unless it's inside your cell, unless it's inside your cells.
Julian Hayes II
(56:06) That's what I was explaining to people also, and then also to my understanding, a lot of times is the copper, a lot of times with vitamins and minerals, they usually have a pair. (56:16) Yes, yes. (56:17) So zinc needed like copper and a ratio.
(56:20) So for me, I always took that. (56:22) And then I tried to, let's see if this is right as well. (56:25) I had something to help zinc get inside the cell as well.
Caroline Alan
(56:29) Oh, who was it?
Julian Hayes II
(56:31) I use a quercetin.
Caroline Alan
(56:33) Quercetin. (56:33) Yeah, quercetin is a flavonoid as well. (56:35) Yes.
Julian Hayes II
(56:36) Yeah. (56:36) Yeah, so I had those trio because I talked, I had someone, I remember this during that time, and they're like, I'm going like 50 milligrams on zinc. (56:45) I'm like, oh, okay.
(56:46) And then I was like, what else are you doing? (56:48) He's like, no, I'm just taking zinc. (56:49) I heard zinc.
(56:50) And so I was like, look up copper. (56:53) And you know, a lot of these things are based, like you said earlier, if you take too much magnesium without the calcium, it's gonna create an imbalance. (57:02) Same thing with vitamin D and K.
(57:04) These things come in pairs.
Caroline Alan
(57:06) They come in pairs. (57:07) You know, I often say that people, this is another thing people have no awareness of because we just, you know, you go down the aisle at the, wherever you buy your supplements, and there's all these single bottles of minerals. (57:20) How would you know?
(57:22) How would you know?
Julian Hayes II
(57:22) Yeah.
Caroline Alan
(57:23) Minerals work more like hormones, or like blood sugar. (57:31) You know, everything in your body works in a balance. (57:37) So, yeah.
Julian Hayes II
(57:38) I always tell them to think of this as like a symphony.
Caroline Alan
(57:44) I love that.
Julian Hayes II
(57:45) Yeah. (57:46) There's not just one instrument that's playing a lot of times. (57:49) There's multiples, and sometimes one plays, the other doesn't play, but there's a rhythm and flow to the whole thing.
Caroline Alan
(57:56) I love that so much. (57:58) And so I was thinking about, so what a human, you know, I think about, have you ever heard of mycelium? (58:05) So mycelium are these, they're actually a fungi that lives underneath the earth and the soil, and they are the, they're the channel for all nutrient delivery to the roots of every plant that grows in the soil.
(58:23) So imagine it's like a channel, and through that channel, all the nutrients are delivered. (58:30) Guess what they're delivering? (58:33) Humic and fulvic.
(58:37) You know? (58:38) So it's like here you have this symphony that's happening, this incredible symphony, and all you need are these simple tools. (58:49) It's so easy to support your body.
Julian Hayes II
(58:54) And it's gonna save money. (58:55) Now that I'm thinking about this, if you, you know, for me, I think about, okay, if I have a bunch of these single ones, I can get rid of these single ones. (59:03) It has something to take.
Caroline Alan
(59:04) You just have to take so many pills that don't work.
Julian Hayes II
(59:06) Yeah, or I, you know, for me, I'll probably just find something else to try or something, right? (59:12) But it'll probably still be less, but I can- How many pills do you take per day? (59:18) Not much.
(59:18) I talked to some people this week who take much more than me. (59:21) So I'm fairly young still. (59:22) So I take about maybe 10 to 20, 25.
Caroline Alan
(59:30) So I- That's a lot of pills.
Julian Hayes II
(59:33) Well, look, I know some who take 70, 100. (59:36) I know.
Caroline Alan
(59:37) And the thing that I really also wanna tell people is, you know, when you're taking that many pills, you really need to look at what kind of excipients and fillers are in those things. (59:46) Because think of all that stuff, just even the caps, what are the caps made of, you know? (59:51) Because, you know, that just, anyway.
Julian Hayes II
(59:54) Yeah. (59:55) No, I mean, that makes sense. (59:56) And then also consider the biochemistry of it all.
(1:00:00) And like, you know, we're talking about symphonies now and everything. (1:00:04) To really know that these things are, do they go along with each other? (1:00:10) Yeah, exactly.
(1:00:11) And is it gonna create good music? (1:00:13) And so, and there's a rhyme or reason for why certain things, you know, that I would take. (1:00:19) And it's not every day.
(1:00:20) Some things are off and on. (1:00:21) Some things I'm just trying and stuff like that. (1:00:24) But, you know, I like this.
(1:00:25) And I like this whole idea because even for people, you know, kind of like yourself, you're not a pill popper. (1:00:31) And I think of people like my family. (1:00:34) And just even like my mom, who doesn't really like to do a lot of this stuff, right?
(1:00:40) But having something like this, even for the average individual, this is creating a solid foundation, helping your body to go into homeostasis. (1:00:49) Even if you don't do anything else, you're taking care of this thing for homeostasis. (1:00:54) Because not everyone's gonna be a biohacker or not everyone's gonna wanna have different schedules and timings for all this stuff.
Caroline Alan
(1:01:02) Exactly, which is why I really wanna get out and talk to, you know, the moms, you know? (1:01:08) Because think about the little kids, you know?
Julian Hayes II
(1:01:11) That's what I was going to ask, yeah.
Caroline Alan
(1:01:12) Yeah, little kids are getting so many glyphosates in their food. (1:01:17) And kids now come off the soccer field with cramping muscles because they're drinking reverse osmosis filtered water or distilled water, bottled water, right? (1:01:30) But it has no minerals.
(1:01:31) And their foods are depleted of minerals. (1:01:33) And the glyphosates are further depleting their system of minerals and causing other gut dysbiosis issues. (1:01:40) So if you can get your kids to drink these liquids, and the beautiful thing is they taste like water, so the kids don't, you know, go, ooh, I don't wanna drink that, or where's my grape flavoring?
(1:01:51) You know, you can put it in their water bottle and you're done.
Julian Hayes II
(1:01:56) And this goes in your tea also. (1:01:57) I had it in tea. (1:01:59) So it goes in tea.
(1:02:00) Sometimes I just drink it in water, it's fine. (1:02:03) There's really no taste.
Caroline Alan
(1:02:05) Exactly.
Julian Hayes II
(1:02:05) And that's the whole point, right? (1:02:07) Because you're skipping a step of the digestion part, right?
Caroline Alan
(1:02:10) Exactly, exactly. (1:02:11) So. (1:02:11) We used to say it's tasteless and then we were like, well, wait a minute.
(1:02:14) It's not tasteless. (1:02:16) I mean, meaning tasteless like, like I have taste.
Julian Hayes II
(1:02:23) So one of the last things I want to do is kind of give people an idea if they're interested in this, kind of how to go about starting this. (1:02:31) Because there's a handful of products now on the website and everything. (1:02:34) And so someone's just being introduced to this.
(1:02:38) What do you, how do you recommend? (1:02:40) What's a good foundational starting point?
Caroline Alan
(1:02:41) We have a products called our advanced set and includes two products. (1:02:47) One is the fulvic supplement that's called Electrolyze™. (1:02:51) And the other is the humic supplement that's called Micro-BOOST™. (1:02:54) And we call them the advanced set because they provide not only all of the energy generation, fulvic complex aspect, but they also provide that constant, mother nature's janitor, full system, constant detoxification. (1:03:12) So the, we provide on the website, of course, there's lots of usage and for information about how to utilize them. (1:03:19) But just taking a half an ounce, each of those per day is fantastic for really anybody up to say 150 pounds.
(1:03:29) If you're a real athlete, you might want to take more Electrolyze™. (1:03:34) If you're dealing with some real issues health wise, with your gut, you might want to work up to taking more of the Micro-BOOST™ for a period of time. (1:03:45) But as a foundational amount, that is, that's all you need.
Julian Hayes II
(1:03:50) Yeah. (1:03:50) And yeah, I'm going to experiment with that. (1:03:53) Cause I've been, I've been pretty conservative with my, with my doses just so far.
(1:03:56) And so, and I'm 200 pounds. (1:03:58) So.
Caroline Alan
(1:03:59) Well, let me tell you about how you can utilize these. (1:04:01) So what, the reason that we split them up, the Humic from the Fulvic, and just, you know, Micro-BOOST™ does have some Fulvic in it. (1:04:08) It's actually in there because it keeps the Humic in suspension completely ionized.
(1:04:15) So, but when you, now that you have Fulvic as the Electrolyze™ and Humic as your Micro-BOOST™, you can use, I mean, the Micro-BOOST™ as your Humic supplement, you can use them in a couple of different ways. (1:04:26) Let's say you're going out for a run or you're going to the gym. (1:04:29) You take an extra half a cap of that, or half an ounce, a cap full is about an ounce.
(1:04:37) So we say half a cap in your water. (1:04:41) And just, if you, if you do any other electrolyte replenishment, forget that other stuff. (1:04:45) Doesn't work.
(1:04:47) Just use Electrolyze™ as your electrolyte replenishment. (1:04:50) Okay. (1:04:51) So that's how you can use Electrolyze™. (1:04:54) Then if you want to, you can use Micro-BOOST™ in several different ways. (1:04:58) One, let's say you feel a cold coming on, take an extra half shot of Micro-BOOST™ before you go to bed. (1:05:06) Viruses do not like to live in the same realm with Humic.
(1:05:14) It's well-documented that viruses don't survive well when Humic is around. (1:05:21) So that, the other way you can use it is, let's say you're gluten-free and you go to a restaurant, you get glutenized and you feel that foggy, like, ugh, low-key feel, just take an extra shot of Micro-BOOST™. (1:05:34) It will clear it out.
(1:05:35) Or let's say you get, have, you actually get food poisoning. (1:05:40) Fantastic. (1:05:41) Or just some, something, something that's creating diarrhea or something.
(1:05:46) It's fantastic for clearing out toxins from the gut. (1:05:51) Or even if you drank alcohol. (1:05:54) If, you know, I have a friend who, her husband is German.
(1:05:56) He loves to drink alcohol and she could never drink because she didn't sleep. (1:06:01) And she tried the Micro-BOOST™, slept through the night. (1:06:06) She's like, oh, you've changed my life.
(1:06:08) Now I can drink with my husband. (1:06:10) I wasn't sure that was a good thing, but.
Julian Hayes II
(1:06:13) This could be a great travel companion as well, because a lot of times when we travel to different places, especially different countries, there's different bacteria and that we're coming, that we're coming into contact with. (1:06:24) Even if you're eating some of the same foods, it's still different because it's a different region. (1:06:28) And you hear a lot of times about people maybe taking a probiotic with them or something like that to try to help themselves get acclimated to that new region.
Caroline Alan
(1:06:37) Well, and I, and I do want to mention, we do have capsules. (1:06:41) Okay. (1:06:41) And they are the powdered form of the, it's like taking Micro-BOOST™. (1:06:48) It's actually like taking the Advanced Set really, in a powdered form. (1:06:53) And for travel, just cause it's really hard to travel with these big liquid bottles.
Julian Hayes II
(1:06:58) Yeah.
Caroline Alan
(1:06:58) Especially if you're going for an extended period. (1:07:01) The capsules are not as bioavailable, but they are highly concentrated. (1:07:06) And we actually use them with athletes as well, who are real endurance athletes.
(1:07:11) They take one capsule a day plus the liquid because the capsule is like sort of like a time release. (1:07:18) It's slowly dissolving and becoming bioavailable. (1:07:22) Whereas the liquids immediately bioavailable.
(1:07:25) So for real performance athletes, it's a great tool and for travel.
Julian Hayes II
(1:07:31) Okay. (1:07:32) I like that. (1:07:33) Glad to keep that in top of my head.
(1:07:36) I think, you know, I think this is a great starting point. (1:07:39) I'm sure down the road, there's more that's going to come out on this. (1:07:43) And I'm probably going to end up seeing you everywhere because this is still not as known as it should be.
(1:07:48) And so I can't wait for all the new discoveries around this. (1:07:52) And so we'll definitely have to have a part two. (1:07:55) I really enjoyed this conversation.
(1:07:57) Where can listeners keep up with you at?
Caroline Alan
(1:08:00) Well, they can look for, you know, our website, beamminerals.com. (1:08:05) I'm actually also starting a website called the Mineral Geek, which if they're wanting to learn more, I'm going to start doing some educational stuff. (1:08:18) I'm really, truly on a mission to bring this information out.
(1:08:21) But beamminerals.com is a great place to start.
Julian Hayes II
(1:08:25) I like that name.
Caroline Alan
(1:08:26) And did we create a discount code for you?
Julian Hayes II
(1:08:29) Glad to remember. (1:08:30) Yes. (1:08:30) So there's a discount code for those out there.
(1:08:32) And just use the discount code, Julian. (1:08:34) And it's, I believe it's 20% off, right? (1:08:37) Yeah.
(1:08:38) Yeah. (1:08:38) It's 20% off. (1:08:39) Use the discount code, Julian.
(1:08:40) I will have a link there. (1:08:41) And I need to make a resource page with a bunch of different tools and stuff I use. (1:08:47) I'm very behind in slacking on that.
(1:08:49) So I'm going to have that up, but this will be on the show notes page with the discount code, Julian. (1:08:54) So thank you so much. (1:08:56) I really appreciate that.
(1:08:57) You have a believer in me. (1:08:58) You have a lifelong customer in me. (1:09:00) It's personally helped me.
(1:09:02) So this is why I feel, you know, very no problem at all to mention this and everything, because I like to try everything first before I recommend it. (1:09:11) So nobody comes back at me and says anything. (1:09:13) So this is, I think it's truly groundbreaking.
(1:09:15) It's going to save people some money in their wallet as well and not popping as many pills.
Caroline Alan
(1:09:21) Right. (1:09:22) And actually feeling better.
Julian Hayes II
(1:09:24) Yes.
Caroline Alan
(1:09:24) That's one of the things I always say to people. (1:09:26) When was the last time you took a mineral supplement and actually felt the difference?
Julian Hayes II
(1:09:30) Yeah. (1:09:31) So I think that's the big thing is like, no, it's one thing to take things on hope and faith. (1:09:38) And it's another thing to actually have some kind of substance and proven ability there to actually see the substantial difference that you're making.
(1:09:47) And so, yeah, so other than that, everyone, thank you again for joining me and listeners out there. (1:09:53) Stay awesome, be limitless. (1:09:55) And as always, go be the CEO of your health and life.
(1:09:57) Peace.
